Yes they are just making dojos to put invisible walls, it's not like there is a need for tournament training tools

or that people solo pvping are asking for something like this for years

or that people are getting bored of having to roam for hours to find decent fights

it's just to annoy you with "you can't touch me" walls.

For those who are into 1v1, the omnipresence of neutral logi and offgrid boosts make EVE frustrating and unfun.

The only thing that's being said is that there's room in the sandbox for structured tournament-style PvP backed by the requisite mechanics to make it work properly.

When you are fighting someone in PvP in a fair and controlled environment

The EVE philosophy is risk vs reward, not "gank everyone because I want to" this is how CCP designed the game, dojos respect this philosophy.

Because there's no loss on the test server.

I'm pretty sure there's a difference between losing a fight against your opponent because they're a better pilot and losing a fight because a random Tornado showed up and alpha'd you off the field.

If it removes you from any fleets you're in and doesn't permit being invited to them for the duration, that easily solves the OGB issue.

As for "dead is dead", that seems like a gross oversimplification.

I don't see how. Do 1v1s require being in a fleet?

Eve is all about risk vs reward, I'm repeating myself because you elude this part over and over.

Again, it's just conjecture as nobody even knows if this will ever be expanded past 1v1.

That's only because people that duel atm are looking for a fair and controlled environment

Except that dojos are way more risky than duels

"No they are not because I said so, despite the factual data you provided about duels being safer"

I love how you quote one sentence and elude the rest of my post

This is factual data friend, please read ALL of my post (I know it's hard, but focus you can do it) before posting and embarrassing yourself.

So what we see is an imbalance in the ease of gameplay disruption vs the ease of avoiding said disruptions.

You said that dojos are basically duels with no risk

factual data

This means no reinforcement timers and no ridiculous amounts of EHP.

Instead of thinking about ways to retain players and make it more fun, you are thinking of ways to drive everyone away from Eve who cannot log in 24/7. Yeah, that's a great marketing strategy. Right up there next to destructible stations.

Why does the knife not cut both ways?

You want to gank me or have the ability to gank me 23.5/7 but I'm not allowed to want 5-15mins of non-gankable time?

This is just one tool that would be given players to avoid being griefed by players who have numerous options to disrupt my gameplay.

Also, the most important part: you can **** in my Cheerios all you want by reinforcing my dojo while I ignore you, therefore limiting my 1 of 3 tools to avoid being disrupted.

I wonder how many other players are out there who are silent right now because they are not playing but would be if new things were added to the game . . . ANY new things.

Perhaps you haven't paid attention, but the POS problem is rooted in god-awful legacy code that was slapped together quickly and without documentation back when players were living out of anchored cans and CCP as a company was .. very different. They're working on an outright replacement for POSes because fixing the existing nonsense would take even longer than starting over.

As for sov, has anyone actually had an idea yet that's honestly not as terrible as Dominion sov - or worse?

Anyway, it's silly to assume more people have stopped playing due to sov and pos problems than have stopped because of development stagnation.

Where are your numbers?

Fair enough. This was a side project (which devs are allowed to do) and not a main focus of the game. To think that CCP et al are ignoring null would be an error as they have already stated the roadmap and it is on it.

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That's a deliberate oversimplification and you know it. Development is more than just POSes and your damnable Sov. It's also new features, which we haven't really had any of since Apocrypha.

Numbers came into it when you implied more people have left EVE because of POSes and Sov than for lack of new things in the game. Word choice is important, you know.

As for DUST, I'm not touching that.

I DO agree with this. 2 days is a bit much. Thats a tweak to take to the next phase after this prototype.

You are implying that dojos don't respect the risk vs reward philosophy, which is wrong.